The DF83 is the larger, more powerful follow-up to the DF64, not just a bigger burr in the same body. Reviewers consistently describe it as more refined and needing less tinkering to perform well out of the box.
| Spec | DF64 | DF83 |
|---|---|---|
| Burrs | 64mm flat | 83mm flat |
| Motor | Around 250 to 300W | 550W |
| Motor speed | 1400 RPM (Gen 2) | Not specified in sources reviewed |
| Weight | About 15 lbs | About 23.8 lbs |
| Grind speed | A double espresso dose in about 7 to 11 seconds | Described consistently as notably faster than the DF64 |
| Retention | Low, single-dose design | Described as close to zero, single-dose design |
| Build feel | Functional, known for community mods addressing early quirks | More premium finish, needs less modification out of the box |
| Included accessories | Not consistently documented across sources | Bellows, catch cup, RDT sprayer, brush, hopper, extra parts, dosing funnel, manual |
| Typical price | More affordable | Notably higher |
In concept, yes, it's the larger, more powerful follow-up from the same maker, but it's more than a scaled-up DF64. Reviewers describe the DF83 as more refined out of the box, needing less modification to perform well, where the original DF64 was known for quirks that the community worked around.
Noticeably faster. The DF83's larger 83mm burrs paired with a more powerful motor are consistently described as producing a rapid grind, while the DF64 is also fast for its size but working with smaller burrs and a less powerful motor.
The DF83 is well documented as including a fuller accessory set: bellows, a catch cup, an RDT sprayer, a brush, a hopper, extra parts, a dosing funnel, and a manual. We found less specific documentation of the DF64's included accessories by comparison.
Some US retailers sell these models under the Turin brand name. They're the same underlying grinders, just distributed under a different name depending on the retailer.