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This covers the base DF64 and DF83, not the "V" variants. Both grinders are also sold in DF64V and DF83V versions with variable speed control and some additional refinements. Specs here reflect the standard models rather than those upgraded variants.

Spec Comparison

SpecDF64DF83
Burrs64mm flat83mm flat
MotorAround 250 to 300W550W
Motor speed1400 RPM (Gen 2)Not specified in sources reviewed
WeightAbout 15 lbsAbout 23.8 lbs
Grind speedA double espresso dose in about 7 to 11 secondsDescribed consistently as notably faster than the DF64
RetentionLow, single-dose designDescribed as close to zero, single-dose design
Build feelFunctional, known for community mods addressing early quirksMore premium finish, needs less modification out of the box
Included accessoriesNot consistently documented across sourcesBellows, catch cup, RDT sprayer, brush, hopper, extra parts, dosing funnel, manual
Typical priceMore affordableNotably higher
If budget and a smaller footprint matter most, the DF64 is the more affordable, more compact option, and its early quirks have reportedly been addressed in the Gen 2 version. If speed and a more finished, less fiddly experience matter more, the DF83's larger burrs and more powerful motor grind noticeably faster, and it's consistently described as needing less community troubleshooting to perform well right out of the box, at a real cost and size premium.

Common Questions

Is the DF83 just a bigger version of the DF64?

In concept, yes, it's the larger, more powerful follow-up from the same maker, but it's more than a scaled-up DF64. Reviewers describe the DF83 as more refined out of the box, needing less modification to perform well, where the original DF64 was known for quirks that the community worked around.

How much faster is the DF83 than the DF64?

Noticeably faster. The DF83's larger 83mm burrs paired with a more powerful motor are consistently described as producing a rapid grind, while the DF64 is also fast for its size but working with smaller burrs and a less powerful motor.

Does either grinder come with accessories included?

The DF83 is well documented as including a fuller accessory set: bellows, a catch cup, an RDT sprayer, a brush, a hopper, extra parts, a dosing funnel, and a manual. We found less specific documentation of the DF64's included accessories by comparison.

Are the DF64 and DF83 the same as Turin grinders?

Some US retailers sell these models under the Turin brand name. They're the same underlying grinders, just distributed under a different name depending on the retailer.

Specs compiled from manufacturer listings, retailer documentation, and independent reviews, cross-checked where possible. Some sources described the "V" variants of these grinders specifically, which add variable speed control and other refinements not present on the base models covered here, and those details were left out accordingly. Prices and availability change, so confirm current figures on the retail listing before buying. No claim of independent hands-on testing is made on this page.